Some fine stuff!

 

From Craig Glenn

If we are forgiven of our sins past, present, and future at the time of salvation won't that lead to a sinful lifestyle?

 

 "This is not a new question"…I love this…when we are preaching the gospel "properly" people WILL ask this question, why, because they asked Paul…and who preached he gospel better than Paul!!

 

From Brad Dearlove

Church Leaders don't want to preach ' too much' grace because they are afraid that the people will go out and sin. They want the people to be holy... Do we as leaders really think that we have the power to make people holy? They don't want to loose control of the people, God 'forbid' that we as leaders give Him back control of HIS church, the people HE bought with HIS SONS BLOOD.

 

The power for everything is in the gospel of Gods grace. Grace teaches people to say no to ungodliness and worldly passions, and Grace teaches us to live self controlled and upright lives. Why? because when believers grasp a true revelation of their amazing position, they begin to become more aware of the Holy Spirit dwelling in them, and HE will manifest the life of Jesus in their lives. We cant make people like Jesus, but the HOLY SPIRIT can.

 

If we want to see people changed, preach the gospel (of grace). If we want the people to live godly lives, preach the gospel (of grace), if we want people to be self controlled, preach the gospel (of grace).

 

If we want the people to struggle and not live victorious over those things that chain them down, or we don't want to give up control of 'our' church, then don't preach the gospel (of grace). Preach a watered down gospel and throw in a whole lot of charismatic laws, rules and principals; make sure you add in a whole lot of do's and don'ts.

 

Blessings,

 

From Ryan Rufus:

Guys this is excellent! You're prophetically putting your finger on something that is absolutely key and central at this very moment!

 

The religious spirit is raging thru the church at the moment and trying to put pressure on leaders to preach more holiness and righteousness and obedience and consecration. Sadly many are blindly participating with this nonsense and are becoming more religious and joyless! This whole thing on this new 'moral revolution' and a 'revival of righteousness' seriously concerns and troubles me. It's flesh, it's pharisaical and it's an Ishmael! It's not a moral revolution, it's a grace revolution! That's what God is doing! The byproduct of that will be holy living etc but don't make that the focus. I want to scream at people 'stop trying to be more holy! Stop trying to be sanctified! Stop trying to be more obedient! Stop trying to be more consecrated!!! Get your eyes off yourself and onto Him. See what He's already fully accomplished. See grace! See prophetically what God is releasing across the earth and that is a revelation of His righteousness in us and our absolute unchanging eternally perfect position in Him!

 

God reminded me yesterday that 'seeing your salvation' is key in this time. Many preach 'holiness and morality' because they haven't seen their salvation. They haven't seen the supernatural work that has taken place on the inside of a christian at the point of salvation. That God is not trying to put restraint on us because he's put it in us! Grace is the reason we could keep sinning because God has taken the external restraint of the law off us! Yet grace is the reason why we don't keep sinning because God has put the restraint of His nature inside our spirit! Any other kind of restraint christians put on each other is external, and no matter how subtle, it's law!!! IE fear of judgement, promise of blessing, fear of curse, promise of the Fathers pleasure, withdrawal of His pleasure etc, is all external manipulation to get a christian to 'move'. Stop trying to get Christians to move!!!! God moves Christians! Just present the glorious truths of the gospel and christians will come alive! Our spirits have been given fullness in Christ, are seated with Christ, blessed with every blessing in Christ. Our spirits love Jesus perfectly, have perfect faith, perfect love, perfect righteousness, perfect authority, perfect 100% passion to live for Him, perfect power over temptation, perfect health, perfect prosperity, perfect encounter with God etc etc. All we got to do is connect with that and live from that place. Grace reveals that and empowers us to live from that place because grace is spiritual and has it's faith in Him. Law is fleshly and has it's eyes on self. Your flesh, your mind. As long as your persuing that, you'll never live from your spirit thru your mind and flesh.

 

Anyway. You guys are getting me excited. Well done. Keep going for it. I feel like the religious spirit is mounting a final stand as he can see he's loosing the fight. Like Paul just before he got saved, his persecusion intensified, and then all of a sudden God smacked him off his horse and delivered him for that religious spirit and he became one of the greatest grace guys ever! I feel like the grace revolutionary's need to stand all the more in these times and not be intimidated but bold and courageous! Strong in the grace of God! Because great deliverence is coming world wide to the church. Our battle is not against flesh and blood (even though sometimes you just want to smack some people for the stupid things they say!!!) it's against the religious spirit that is ravaging precious people and churches who are blinded, but I can see the panic in his eyes, because he knows that we know that God knows- he's coming down!!!!!!!!!!! And incredible freedom is coming to multitudes world wide!!!! Praise God!

 

More strength, more grace, more boldness, more peace to all you guys.